cumminsturbofan101 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

"I contend that for a nation trying to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket trying to life himself by the handle."- Winston Churchill

cumminsturbofan101 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I contend that for a nation trying to tax itself

DLun203 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

this isn't absolute socialism, but it was still socialism in a sense. Socialism can be described as taking from one group and giving to another...ergo, Obama's plan is socialism.The numbers above prove that.

mikeyooh7 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

As i said or vise verca the state is run by the banks therefore we dont live in a land of free men. But think about this when ron paul was running for president during the primaries he won most hand counts. However only got one out of 5 votes on the diebold machines. Diebold also makes atms for chase and bank of america. They also had large investments from these banks during the same timem 65 percent higher profits than usual. The true canidate of change may have been cheated out of the electio

gabe228 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

the States do not own the banks, they DO NOT OWN THE BANKS, if anything, its the other way around, what do you think government bonds are? The bail out was the ultimate socialist move, if you are so against socialism, then don't be bias against Obama, because both parties agreed to the bail out. If AMerica is a true captalist nation, the government should have just let all the banks/corporations brankrupt and not give them a cent.

mikeyooh7 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

When the state takes the capital from one group of people and gives it to another that is socialism. And there is hardly much "private property" any more. The banks own most of this "private property" and the state owns the central bank. Or the bank could own the state either way its still not owned by the individual. The government forces unionization of automakers, infact most production is regulated by the state. And most companies get loans from the banks to buy the means of production.

gabe228 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

it's not socialism.. you don't even know what socialism mean...his plan actually is no higher than Reagan or senior bush's administration for the upper bracket.And socialism includes many different aspects including absolute government control, and no PRIVATE PROPERTY, and all forms of production owned by states. Collective government ownership, etc.None of the socialist aspects are happening, you are just plain idiot. If you want to complain, the bail out was a pure socialist move.

sitsutam (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I wish they would have covered the business taxes as well, and people who make over 2.9 million, can afford a really good accountant (which they most likely already have) to pay less than 700k which they could afford anyway.

roaches146 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

0114770 people work just as hard in the lower class as the upper class. i'm actually surprised to see some of the wealthiest people sit on their ass doing nothing.

0114770 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

yer fucking dumb. so the people who work hard to get more money deserve to b taxed more?