hibeango (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

You sound like Dr. DDEEEEEEMENTO

RabidApe (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

"Does that mean you might believe in the oscillating universe hypothesis?"That's not where the evidence points, as of right now.To the best of our knowledge, the expansion is actually accelerating, and we don't have any reason to think it will slow down or reverse.That doesn't mean it's not possible - there could be some kind of phase change or something in the future that just might cause the expansion to slow down or reverse.tl,dr; I don't know.

jityr2 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Well entropy is about the second law of thermodynamics. To the best of my knowledge so far that doesn't disprove the big bang even though technically the universe is considered a closed system."in between Big Bangs".Does that mean you might believe in the oscillating universe hypothesis?

RabidApe (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

"wouldn't it violate the first law of thermodynamics?"Yes, and not necessarily. :)We can be confident that the 1st law applies in the universe as we know it today, but it is possible that our current understanding is just a 'subset' of a larger theory - much like how Newtonian gravity is a 'subset' of Einsteinian relativity.SPECULATION WARNING: Perhaps the matter/energy of the universe is eternal, but the 'entropy count' is 'reset' in between Big Bangs?

RabidApe (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

"All scientist agree that the universe and time had a beginning."close! change it to:"All scientist agree that the universe and time AS WE KNOW THEM had a beginning.""Unless the universe existed forever without a beginning"It's a little weird to say 'before the big bang' since that's where time as we know it began. Kinda like referring to 'north of the north pole'.

jityr2 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

All scientist agree that the universe and time had a beginning. Right? Unless the universe existed forever without a beginning, wouldn't it violate the first law of thermodynamics?

fs3d (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Also..."First of all I believe in the one and true God Jesus Crist."Evidence?"There is more proof of him than your theory's."Where? The Bible? Sorry that's not evidence."Historical documentation that he did exist walked the earth and also did everything else he claimed."That "Historical documentation" is either the Bible/Quran or Christian/Muslim documentation, and you can't even agree among your own divisions of Christianity on the provisions, so no you can't use that as "proof".

RabidApe (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

(and if you're tempted to give 'God' an exception, ironmountain, please explain why 'God' gets a free pass, but 'The Universe' doesn't!)kthxbye

Staunts (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

You say that the universe cannot have always existed, and you say that something cannot come from nothing, but Has god always existed, and if not, where did he come from? Intelligence is the result of a process, how can an intelligent god just have always existed?

ironmountain28 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

First of all I believe in the one and true God Jesus Crist. There is more proof of him than your theory's. There is Historical documentation that he did exist walked the earth and also did everything else he claimed.