jkc55555 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Sorry you had a bad experience. I went to BYU and then to the Ivy League for law school-- I think I have a pretty good idea of how good my preparation was vis a vis my classmates there. Pretty good, it turns out.I don't know what your source is on Bill Marriott but I lived in the D.C. area for a number of years and I bet mine is better.

amd9012 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

the music made this video suck

ElderGeorgeCarlin (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

If anyone sounds like they are crying it's you with your ad hominem attacks.BYU is overrated dude. I had an ok education, but could tell how alumni like you feel it's one of the best schools in the country...it simply isn't.Perhaps, someday you'll learn that not everyone has your POV...other schools allow one to have them.As far as the Marriott family goes, Bill Marriott does have the final say in what's played. He's done it before.You have the last word, since you insist.

jkc55555 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Not what I said. Jim doesn't care-- he said so. BYU would like to help but has a rule. Jim doesn't care enough to follow the easy rule. Where do you come in? Don't try to enlist Jim in your personal issues. No one forced you to go to BYU. Grow up and quit crying about it. BTW, learn to make an analogy. The problem with the calendar wasn't content-- it was that he was sexualizing spiritual things. Marriott is publicly traded and the family doesn't get to make those decisions.

ElderGeorgeCarlin (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Just joshin'. This was an incredible game!

ElderGeorgeCarlin (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

gun5nr0s3s:A simple, yet ineffective, ad hominem attack. You might need to look that one up...it's something I didn't learn at BYU.By the way, in this case, "Cougars" is capitalized. LOL!

gun5nr0s3s (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Just because cougars don't have to stare at the keyboard and type with one finger like you doesn't mean they don't know how to spell.

ElderGeorgeCarlin (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I'm glad you recognize the hypocrisy of keeping Jim around, using him, and then cutting him loose when they didn't need him anymore.I admire the Y for having the graduation requirement, I just think it's unethical to do what they did...I guess it's a Catch 22. Jim isn't willing to abide by the Honor Code to get his degree, even if they allowed him to finish up.Please stay indoors today, I hear people might get hit in the head by errant Max Hall passes.

jkc55555 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I will agree that, if you are right (and neither you nor I know if you are) that BYU cynically kept Jim around until his eligibility was exhausted even though it knew about his honor-code breaking prior to that, it did something wrong.But where you are wrong is in your assumption that the current admin ought to just waive the requirement, and that they (including AD Tom Holmoe) haven't already bent over backwards to help him finish if he wants to. He told Rome he didn't care. y should u?

ElderGeorgeCarlin (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

jkc55555 must have majored in sarcasm.BYU cuts him loose right after his final game (1 semester prior to graduation) then they now say "He didn't graduate, so he can't be in our Hall of Fame". They didn't give him lot of chances to come back and finish.It's akin to the excomm. of a guy who prints a calendar no more harmless than a JC Penny catalog, then keeps the Marriott family in good standing, even though they sell hard-core porn in their hotels. It's all about $ in the Corp. of JC.