playboyoft (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I made a typing error he was'nt even alive ,until 600 years after Jesus died.(Muhammad)

playboyoft (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Will you at least admit that the secular scholars were wrong and that the Bible was writen in the time of ancient Israel?. The Bible preache's love,most other religon's don't. Muhammad claimed to know about Jesus,and even Moses and other people that the Bible speaks of,when he was'nt even living until 200 years after Jesus died.

nobagav (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

"Plus the Bible itself is proof..."You have never been able to demonstrate why. You haven't even been able to demonstrate why it is even better than the holy books of other religions. All of your assertions START with your assumption that Christianity is correct. If you remove that prejudice, these assertions fall lifeless to the floor. The evidence only exists in your worldview, not in the world at large.

playboyoft (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

God has given you accurate information ,the ancient silver scrolls was not faith or religious opinions,but irefutable proof that the skeptic scholar's were wrong .And that the Bible was really writen in the time of ancient Israel and inspired by God.Plus the Bible itself is proof,Science is also. What kind of proof are you looking for? What more do you need?

nobagav (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

"But i'm not open to any lie that contradicts the irefutable word of God."Then you are not open. You have come to an absolute and any evidence that upsets that prejudice will be rejected out of hand. And I still say that making a definite claim about the thoughts or desires of a being capable of creating the universe is anything but humble.

playboyoft (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I'm an agnostic about alot of things in life, i'm a humble person,not just because it's a sin to have pride ,but because God is so brilliant and he's also omniscient,so regardless of how smart i am or other's are,it's just nothing compared to the brilliant mind of God.I'm open to the fossil records of Evolution,the possibility of intelligent life existing some where else(altough i doubt it).But i'm not open to any lie that contradicts the irefutable word of God.

nobagav (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

"It's not about being less intelligent than Yahweh(God)"Yes, it is. Without full and accurate information upon which to form your choice, the choosing becomes meaningless and judgments based on your choice become arbitrary. Especially if, as in this case, the 'correct' answer is the one that is not supported by the evidence.

nobagav (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

"waiting to judge you,knowing the life that you lived here on earth,you would be scared to death,"No, I wouldn't. If the judgment offered is so badly skewed as Christianity preaches, then there no reason to take pride or comfort in the acceptance of such a capricious arbitror.

playboyoft (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Nobagav my message to you and every other athiest is its time to repent and worship our creator. We already have irefutable proof that the Bible was not a book of pious fiction as skeptic's claim. The ancient silver scroll dates back to the 7th century B.C.400 years older than the dead sea scrools. So to deny the Bible is to deny Forensic science and archeology.I don't have faith that God exist,i know he does.

nobagav (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

"and alot of Evolution is a stastical probability?"Almost everything is statistical probability from a skeptical point of view. I don't deal in what is, I deal in what is most likely. In this way I find that it is much easier to take in all the options and information and make an informed choice about a course of action or position to take. By not insisting on absolutes it is easier to abandon clearly untenable positions and increase my understanding.